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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:56 pm 
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hi,

i hope im not in the completly wrong category.

Anyway i would like to contribute something to your website. My grandfather served in the (2)./122 and was shot down in the beginning of the january of 1944. So if you are interested yo just have to write!

I have some pics(also from his reconnaissance missions - Salerno, Neapel etc), his awards/dagger and some additional infos.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:14 pm 
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Hi Maigewitter,

Welcome to the site.

I'm sure Andy Mitchell (whose site this is) would welcome any info on members of 2.(F)/122 you have

What was your grandfather's name, between what dates did he serve with 2.(F)/122 and what was his function (flugzeugfϋhrer, beobachter etc.)

Also if any of the photos you have include pictures of crews with names and dates I'd be interested know.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:22 pm 
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Maigewitter,

Many thanks for your post and welcome to the board.

I would be most interested in any additional information that you have regarding your grandfather flying with 2./122.

Please either e-mail me on the e-mail address associated with this post or pm me with your contact details.

As you will see from the main site I have a page dedicated to another member of 2./122s aircrew who flew during their sojourn in Italy - under Personnel you will find the following link to a page remembering Karl-Heinz Klinke (http://www.luftwaffedata.co.uk/html/klinke.html). The information here came via a grandson (Oliver Harms).

As Andy Fletcher indicated we are both interested in expanding our knowledge of crews and operations.

Once again many thanks for the offer and I look forward to hearing from you.

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Hi,

as i wrote in the email, next week i have a lot of time so i will collect and send the main infos then to you.

But a little bit of infos first of all:

I cant exactly say when his military career started etc, but i can send a request to the WASt so there would be then there a good overview about this.
He was a radio operator and depending on the aircraft also the aerial gunner (Me 410 for example). His training as he told me was in the north of Germany where they trained the shooting with targets on the beach/in the sea. Then he was in Denmark, France, Russia, Africa and finally in Italy (if i remember correctly).
But as i said i will go next week to him and talk to him again a bit to clear some things up.
Maybe do you have any additional questions which i could ask him?

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:30 pm 
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Maigewitter,

Did your grandfather serve with any other operational units other than 2.(F)/122.

What was the name of the pilot(s) he usually crewed with.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:16 pm 
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hi,

sorry i dont know if he served in an other unit.

The last pilot and as he said one of his best friends (it was one of the "bitterst moments in his life" as he died and my grandfather had to look how the plane is burning out it with him, without the chance to do anything :-( ), he always says that when he tells from the war), so i think they flew some time together, was named "Atzler". Sorry i have to ask again for the first name, but i remember that it maybe could "Helmut" - im not sure. In his photo album is one (or two) picture from another pilot if i remember correctly.

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Hi Maigewitter,

Thanks for the answers. I look forward to any further details of your grandfather's career you can find out.

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Sorry last week has past very qickly, i will try to visit my grandfather this week.

Happy new year to all!


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Hi,

i scanned the pictures today and tried to talk to my grandfather but he couldnt remember much, so i will try to speak to him next week again.
How should i send you the pictures? At the moment they are quite big (43 mb), but i can seize them down.

About his career, i only found this out:

He was born on the 5.12.1922
Then he visited the secondary school.
From the 11.10.1937 to the 30.9.1940 he made a apprenticeship as a millwright (I hope the i translated the german word "Maschinenschlosser" correctly.)
Alongside he practised soar in the black forest (Villingen for axample).
From Mai 1940 to March 1941 he participated in a radio operator course in Straßburg.

Now its getting a bit blurry. My grandfather couldnt remember much.
But i presume that his military training was in Settin. Do you maybe know if there was any training location?

I only know for sure that he was in Greece and Italy. About other countries i have to ask again.


His pilot for 1/2 or 3/4 year was Helmut Atzler.
In one pic is another memeber of his unit, Rudi Heller. My grandfather said that he was also a radio operator, but he wasnt 100% sure.

I will write here again if i know anything new.



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:28 am 
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Thanks for the additional info.

Happy New Year to you too.

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Hi,

Ehm, the question remains.. should i post the pics here or should i send them to you by email?

and also a happy new year to!

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If you don't mind sharing post them on the forum, then every one can see them.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:55 am 
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Villingen 1941, my grandfather is the one on the very right
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My grandfather
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Stettin 1942: My grandfather with his brother on the left, he felt in the end of 1944 in the northern part of Finland
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November 1943
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Here is an article about my grandfather from the local newspaper. Funny thing is that they wrote his name wrong. Translation:
(High Decoration)
The Gefreite Willi Ehrhardt, radio operator, was awarded with the EK I. The awarded is the son of the "Bahnbediensteten" (sorry dont know a translation, its actually somebody who works at the train station) Johann Ehrhardt in the Winkel and finds himself in a long range reconnaissance unit.
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His dog tag:
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My grandfather together with Rudi Heller, who was most probably in the same unit and also a radio operator, in Saloniki 1943:
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Sorry, dont know much about this pic, only that he also flew with this air plane
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Later i will post the rest of the pics.


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edit. ups forget the water markings, will add them and upload the pics again later


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:24 am 
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Great photos, thanks for sharing them with us.

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Maigewitter,

Very many thanks for sharing all of these pictures with us.

Glad that you managed to sort out the uploading of the photos and look forward to seeing the rest.

The He 115 appears to carry the code 6H+DK and if Barry Rosch's "Luftwaffe Codes, markings and Units 1939-45" is correct would have served with Fl.Erg.Gr.(See) Kamp. (according to Rosch this unit had a number of other names including Ergänzungsgruppe Kopenhagen, Ergänzungsgruppe (See), Ergänzungs-Fliegergruppe (See)(F), Flieger-Ergänzungsstaffel See, Ergänzungs-Aufklärungsstaffel See, Ergänzungs-Fliegerstaffel (See)(F) and Ergänzungs-Küstenfliegerstaffel (F).)

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