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 Post subject: Details of this encounter: 28/7/43 with Beaufighter 404 Sqn
PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:42 pm 
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As provided on an earlier post.

28.07.43 2./406 F Ved Shetland
Shot down in Air battle with Bristol Beaufighter fra No. 404 (RCAF) Sq.
BV 138C-1 0311027 K6+GK 100%
Stfw. Herbert Olschewsky (F) Missing, Oblt. Sebastian von Pander (B.) Killed, Obgfr. Karl Buder (Bf) Missing, Uffz. Johann Willesberger (Bs) Missing and
Fw. Herbert Krause (Bm) Missing


I was wondering if details of the crew which shot down this aircraft, in 404 sqn are known at all, or sources?

Also, the final result of the missing crew-did some of them survive?

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 Post subject: Re: Details of this encounter: 28/7/43 with Beaufighter 404 Sqn
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:20 pm 
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Following 404 Sqn RCAF pilots claimed BV 138s on 28Jul43

S/L Al A. De La Haye (1xDest), F/O Sydney Shulemson (1xDest), F/O E.J. Keefe (2xUnc Dest)

Unit is stated as SAGr. 130 (2./Kü.Fl.Gr. 406 was redesignated 3./SAGr. 130 on 13Jul43 but redesignations often took a while to filter through to the unit and in this case the clerk recording the loss in the Gen.Qu.6.Abt. loss returns)

Source: The Strike Wings, by Roy Conyers Nesbitt

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 Post subject: Re: Details of this encounter: 28/7/43 with Beaufighter 404 Sqn
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:56 am 
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Thank you very much.
That is very interesting :)

Is there a way of finding the reports for this sqn?-are they kept in the UK or in Canada, in archives, perhaps (for the full combat rpt)?

Cead mille failte

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 Post subject: Re: Details of this encounter: 28/7/43 with Beaufighter 404 Sqn
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:50 pm 
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Hi J.

Squadron ORBs are available from the National Archives (formerly the PRO) in the UK. I believe Canadian Sqn ORBs are also available in Canada as well.

You can order the whole file or just the dates you are interested in.

Check out the following link

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/cata ... lt.asp?j=1

The file you would be interested in would be something like AIR 27/1784 (tried searching the catalogue but it doesn't appear to be working properly at the moment).

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 Post subject: Re: Details of this encounter: 28/7/43 with Beaufighter 404 Sqn
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The file you want is AIR 27/1786 (covers 404 Sqn RCAF between May41-May45)

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 Post subject: Re: Details of this encounter: 28/7/43 with Beaufighter 404 Sqn
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:06 pm 
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That's great :P
Thank you-I shall get onto that, and see what details can be uncovered about this encounter between the Aircraft that intercepted the BV seaplane. I suspect there will be a debrief rpt in some form or another, enabling identification of the particular aircraft that shot down that aircraft, and possibly interesting aspects.

Best regards and thanks,

J. :)


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