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 Post subject: Dornier Do 17Z of KG77 with unknown emblem
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:37 pm 
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This photo of a Do17Z is on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Klasse-Photo-AIRPLANE-Do-17-BALKENKREUZ-ID-A-AIRFIELD-/300618339618?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fe3fd522. The code appears to be 3Z+AK, so 2./KG77, but I do not recognise the enblem. It appears to be a figure on a falling bomb, similar to some other KG emblems, but not KG77. Is this a new emblem for 2./KG77 ?

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 Post subject: Re: Dornier Do 17Z of KG77 with unknown emblem
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:12 pm 
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Ian,

I have a problem - I have seen this somewhere but my memory is not what it used to be.................

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 Post subject: Re: Dornier Do 17Z of KG77 with unknown emblem
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:28 pm 
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Hi Andy

A problem shared!!!.... Yes I think I have seen it before...but I don't recal it being KG77. It seems to look most like that of II./KG3 (Ketley & Rolfe #288)...but not identical

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 Post subject: Re: Dornier Do 17Z of KG77 with unknown emblem
PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:33 pm 
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Hi Andy
Thanks again for reminding me that this was a photo which I had seen before. The emblem is not listed in the usual emblem sources. It was however also observed on a Do17Z of 1./KG 77, so it appears to be a I./KG 77 emblem, probably used during 1940. An excellent close-up of the emblem recently appeared on eBay and was in my photo collection (which I should have checked!).


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Devil on a Bomb....now where have I seen this?

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Many thanks for the additional images. It was described as a fledermaus, so its a bat rather than a devil...although aspects of it are devilish ie tail and hooves.

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 Post subject: Re: Dornier Do 17Z of KG77 with unknown emblem
PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 9:36 pm 
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Ian,

Heres another one - harvested in 2004

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 Post subject: Re: Dornier Do 17Z of KG77 with unknown emblem
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...and another one! image isn't quite as clear, but it has the emblem, and appears to be the same airfield.

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 Post subject: Re: Dornier Do 17Z of KG77 with unknown emblem
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Ian,

I feel that the first image and certainly the last two were taken on the same airfield.

See the background Do 17 on the treeline in the first image.

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 Post subject: Re: Dornier Do 17Z of KG77 with unknown emblem
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Another eBay photo of this emblem http://www.ebay.de/itm/x40-Westfeldzug-Frankreich-Maas-Flugzeug-Plane-Do17-Divisionsabzeichen-Emblem-/170754708549?pt=Militaria&hash=item27c1c61445. This time a crashed Do17Z.

Happy New Year

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 Post subject: Re: Dornier Do 17Z of KG77 with unknown emblem
PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:19 pm 
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Ian,

Great photo - now if we could only pin this one down.

Hope that you had a good new years celebration.

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