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 Post subject: Unit id
PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:39 pm 
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Can anyone help with id the unit of these aircraft? Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Unit id
PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:38 am 
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Hi, it looks like the first emblem is that of 4./JG 52 - which from memory was a red cat in a white circle. However, it may also be 8./JG 51 which was a black cat. The second emblem can either be: Erprobungsgruppe 210, SKG 210 or I./ZG 1 Depends on when the picture was taken.

The fourth is the III./JG 77 emblem on the engine nacelle, but under the cockpit it looks like the II./JG 54 emblem.. so not sure.

I don't know the third one, sorry

EDIT: The fourth aircraft is a III./JG 77 machine. During May 1941, II./JG 54 handed over its 109s to III./JG 77 as the former left the Balkans to be deployed against Russia. The hand-over occurred at Belgrade-Semlin airfield. I'm sorry, I don't know the date on that transfer, but I assume it to be the latter half of the month.

The third emblem may be that of 4./St.G 77 - the "Jammerhahn" - but if it is, then it must be the hunching Jammerhahn of Notre Dame!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:57 pm 
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Marcus,

Firstly welcome to the Forum

My two peneth worth.

Item 3 - 6./St.G.77 described in Ketley and Rolfe as "a red and yellow shield with a charging black bull"

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marcus,

from looking at some photographic evidence (p99 of Photo Collection Luftwaffe Emblem 1939-45) I would rule out the "Katzenbuckel" (Angry cat) of 8./JG51 as this appears a diferent shape to that in your photo and any drawings of the cat of 4./JG 52.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 8:39 am 
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Many thanks to all of you.

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